Comments on: The Catholic Church and the twin discount http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html Because having one just wasn't enough Tue, 15 May 2012 18:08:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alicia http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-14030 Alicia Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:20:31 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-14030 Mother of two-and-a-half year old twin daughters. Catholic. Was google-ing ways to help us get to Mass on Sunday with one adult and two toddlers. Glad I ran across you. You are now in my favorites! Mother of two-and-a-half year old twin daughters. Catholic. Was google-ing ways to help us get to Mass on Sunday with one adult and two toddlers. Glad I ran across you. You are now in my favorites!

]]> By: The Joys of Twins » Blog Archive » twin blogs http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2317 The Joys of Twins » Blog Archive » twin blogs Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:13:31 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2317 [...] I have found my favorite twins blog, and it’s by a dad. http://childsplayx2.com He’s pretty funny and boy does he deserve father of a the year for how much he does to help. Although I guess with twins you don’t have much choice but to help. Anyway, it’s a neat site and I think the guy rocks. Here is a funny gem I read this morning from the archives: http://childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html And an example of why he rules: This weekend our babies were sick. In the Childsplayx2 household, since I don’t have boobs and don’t have my nipples yanked and bitten on a daily basis, I have night-time duty. If the babies get up, Daddy gets up. This has gotten easier and easier as they are just about sleeping through the night. Except when they’re sick. This weekend, both had coughs and were incredibly congested. It was a rough couple of nights. Early Sunday I am awakened by both babies crying. I go to JT first hoping to calm him down since he is usually the easier of the two to get back to sleep. I have no such luck so I go to Bri hoping for a miracle. It doesn’t happen. They both want to be comforted and I can tell both are still tired. I scoop both of them up and carry them to our chaise lounge and pull a blanket over us. Bri gets tucked into my left arm, facing out. JT lies on my belly and rests his head on my chest. It’s still fairly dark out and we lie there in the warmth of the blanket. Before long, both are sleeping in our early morning cuddle. I glance down at their angelic faces and I am struck by how fortunate I am. For so long I wanted a little one to share my life with - and now I have two. Two little ones who love being held by their daddy, feeling safe, secure and a little bit tired. Yes, they may be a lot of work and yes, it would be easier with one. But I wouldn’t have it any other way. This entry was posted on Friday, June 30th, 2006 at 4:59 pm and is filed under Pregnancy. [...] [...] I have found my favorite twins blog, and it’s by a dad. http://childsplayx2.com He’s pretty funny and boy does he deserve father of a the year for how much he does to help. Although I guess with twins you don’t have much choice but to help. Anyway, it’s a neat site and I think the guy rocks. Here is a funny gem I read this morning from the archives: http://childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html And an example of why he rules: This weekend our babies were sick. In the Childsplayx2 household, since I don’t have boobs and don’t have my nipples yanked and bitten on a daily basis, I have night-time duty. If the babies get up, Daddy gets up. This has gotten easier and easier as they are just about sleeping through the night. Except when they’re sick. This weekend, both had coughs and were incredibly congested. It was a rough couple of nights. Early Sunday I am awakened by both babies crying. I go to JT first hoping to calm him down since he is usually the easier of the two to get back to sleep. I have no such luck so I go to Bri hoping for a miracle. It doesn’t happen. They both want to be comforted and I can tell both are still tired. I scoop both of them up and carry them to our chaise lounge and pull a blanket over us. Bri gets tucked into my left arm, facing out. JT lies on my belly and rests his head on my chest. It’s still fairly dark out and we lie there in the warmth of the blanket. Before long, both are sleeping in our early morning cuddle. I glance down at their angelic faces and I am struck by how fortunate I am. For so long I wanted a little one to share my life with – and now I have two. Two little ones who love being held by their daddy, feeling safe, secure and a little bit tired. Yes, they may be a lot of work and yes, it would be easier with one. But I wouldn’t have it any other way. This entry was posted on Friday, June 30th, 2006 at 4:59 pm and is filed under Pregnancy. [...]

]]> By: Kanderle http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2316 Kanderle Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:52:29 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2316 I am very sorry for what you've experienced. I grew up baptist but am now Catholic. It is not like that here in Texas. We don't have those kind of rules in our parish. In fact I help teach the baptismal class that is one Sunday evening a month for a couple of hours so Moms don't have to suffer nor babies. Moms bring their babies along sometimes and we can definitely arrange babysitting if necessary. We do want parents to be active in the parish, meaning we want them to come to church as much as possible. Jesus certainly deserves our devotion, I mean he did die on the cross for us. As for the money, we, out of appreciation for the ministry that has been done for us do give whatever we feel led by God to give. I guarantee you expect to get paid for whatever job you do. What if your boss said one day, "Well we don't feel like we should have to pay you, you should do what you do out of the goodness of your heart." God gave priests and preachers a job to do. It's really not that we are paying the church, priest or preacher, but we are providing a way for whatever church we attend to minister to God's people in various ways. Every denomination has bad preachers/priests and churches. Do not for once think that the whole church is to blame. Believe me I have attended several denominatinal churches and have found something unGodly about each. Remember Jesus created the Christian Church but he did not create the sin that happens to be in people. Please talk to the Priest and tell him your concerns and just try out another Catholic Parish. I am very sorry for what you’ve experienced. I grew up baptist but am now Catholic. It is not like that here in Texas. We don’t have those kind of rules in our parish. In fact I help teach the baptismal class that is one Sunday evening a month for a couple of hours so Moms don’t have to suffer nor babies. Moms bring their babies along sometimes and we can definitely arrange babysitting if necessary. We do want parents to be active in the parish, meaning we want them to come to church as much as possible. Jesus certainly deserves our devotion, I mean he did die on the cross for us. As for the money, we, out of appreciation for the ministry that has been done for us do give whatever we feel led by God to give. I guarantee you expect to get paid for whatever job you do. What if your boss said one day, “Well we don’t feel like we should have to pay you, you should do what you do out of the goodness of your heart.” God gave priests and preachers a job to do. It’s really not that we are paying the church, priest or preacher, but we are providing a way for whatever church we attend to minister to God’s people in various ways. Every denomination has bad preachers/priests and churches. Do not for once think that the whole church is to blame. Believe me I have attended several denominatinal churches and have found something unGodly about each. Remember Jesus created the Christian Church but he did not create the sin that happens to be in people. Please talk to the Priest and tell him your concerns and just try out another Catholic Parish.

]]> By: The Bec Half of Glamorouse http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2315 The Bec Half of Glamorouse Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:03:19 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2315 Oh dear, this is just one of the reasons my (now 3.5yr old) twins and their big sister were never baptised. And if it makes you feel any better, one of my friends had similar issues with the christening of her three kids through an Anglican church here - although they did let my husband and I qualify as godparents without doing a special course!! Good luck with your babies - I remember The Mask for my twin boy baby, but he's grown out of all that now. Oh dear, this is just one of the reasons my (now 3.5yr old) twins and their big sister were never baptised. And if it makes you feel any better, one of my friends had similar issues with the christening of her three kids through an Anglican church here – although they did let my husband and I qualify as godparents without doing a special course!!

Good luck with your babies – I remember The Mask for my twin boy baby, but he’s grown out of all that now.

]]> By: christie http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2314 christie Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:51:05 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2314 Hi there -- I found you via Blogfathers, and I'm a parent of twins too. :) I also work for a Catholic church, and part of my job is children's sacramental preparation. I'm weighing in to say that a church should NEVER, NEVER!! charge for celebration of a Sacrament. It sounds like you've gotten your kids baptized already, but you NEED to communicate this problem to the bishop of your diocese. They may *suggest* a donation or a stipend to the priest, but they can't require a payment. They *can* require membership in the parish, at least in some nominal way -- the idea is to ensure that children aren't baptized and then raised without any faith education. I have some... strong opinions about this kind of thing, and I'll keep the rest of them to myself. HTH. Hi there — I found you via Blogfathers, and I’m a parent of twins too. :)

I also work for a Catholic church, and part of my job is children’s sacramental preparation. I’m weighing in to say that a church should NEVER, NEVER!! charge for celebration of a Sacrament. It sounds like you’ve gotten your kids baptized already, but you NEED to communicate this problem to the bishop of your diocese. They may *suggest* a donation or a stipend to the priest, but they can’t require a payment. They *can* require membership in the parish, at least in some nominal way — the idea is to ensure that children aren’t baptized and then raised without any faith education.

I have some… strong opinions about this kind of thing, and I’ll keep the rest of them to myself. HTH.

]]> By: angela marie http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2313 angela marie Sun, 02 Apr 2006 16:11:15 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2313 I guess that I have been fortunate to belong only to the churches that I have...since we have not experienced any of these things. In fact, when we 'oopsie' had a fourth baby a little close to the third, our priest said that we did not have to go to the 'required' baptism class since we had just done it a year earlier. I think the class was very helpful and informative, but your experience with that original church is truly just frightening. ick. Glad the other church turned out. Here via Petroville! I guess that I have been fortunate to belong only to the churches that I have…since we have not experienced any of these things. In fact, when we ‘oopsie’ had a fourth baby a little close to the third, our priest said that we did not have to go to the ‘required’ baptism class since we had just done it a year earlier.

I think the class was very helpful and informative, but your experience with that original church is truly just frightening. ick. Glad the other church turned out.

Here via Petroville!

]]> By: Lisa http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2312 Lisa Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:59:22 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2312 I can totally relate to this post. I was confirmed in the Catholic church - my husband, I think, was baptized Methodist but other than weddings and our oldest's baptism, hasn't stepped foot in a church. The priest who was serving our church at the time of our marriage ran things just like you were describing. I wasn't even asked if I went to church regularly; I was asked if I turned in a money envelope every week. When I said no, because I was working weekends and couldn't get to mass, I was told that they may not be able to marry us. That and a couple of other things that happened led us to just go to an historical site and get married by a JP. When our oldest was born, the new priest was completely the opposite. That man is so friendly, and just great. Had he been there before I turned my back, I still might be there. :) I can totally relate to this post. I was confirmed in the Catholic church – my husband, I think, was baptized Methodist but other than weddings and our oldest’s baptism, hasn’t stepped foot in a church. The priest who was serving our church at the time of our marriage ran things just like you were describing. I wasn’t even asked if I went to church regularly; I was asked if I turned in a money envelope every week. When I said no, because I was working weekends and couldn’t get to mass, I was told that they may not be able to marry us. That and a couple of other things that happened led us to just go to an historical site and get married by a JP.

When our oldest was born, the new priest was completely the opposite. That man is so friendly, and just great. Had he been there before I turned my back, I still might be there. :)

]]> By: Antique Mommy http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2311 Antique Mommy Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:50:18 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2311 Great post. I grew up Catholic and totally related to the legalism. My friend has and older boy and then two twin boys about 18 months younger. They went to church "religeously" since the day they were married and never missed a tithe until her husband lost his job after the twins were born. When he got another job, they started tithing again. When they went to put their twins in Catholic school they were told they no because they missed titheing for six months. Instead of asking WWJD, kinda makes you want to ask WTF? Excuse me now while I go say some Hail Mary's. Great post. I grew up Catholic and totally related to the legalism. My friend has and older boy and then two twin boys about 18 months younger. They went to church “religeously” since the day they were married and never missed a tithe until her husband lost his job after the twins were born. When he got another job, they started tithing again. When they went to put their twins in Catholic school they were told they no because they missed titheing for six months. Instead of asking WWJD, kinda makes you want to ask WTF? Excuse me now while I go say some Hail Mary’s.

]]> By: colleen http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2310 colleen Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:29:37 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2310 One of my son's was baptized in the Catholic church. I hadn't gone to church in many years, didn't start then, and didn't take a dang class. I was in Texas at the time. Great post. I'm here via MommaK. One of my son’s was baptized in the Catholic church. I hadn’t gone to church in many years, didn’t start then, and didn’t take a dang class. I was in Texas at the time. Great post. I’m here via MommaK.

]]> By: michelle_twinmum http://www.childsplayx2.com/2006/03/the-catholic-church-and-the-twin-discount.html/comment-page-1#comment-2309 michelle_twinmum Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:44:43 +0000 http://childsplayx2.com/?p=451#comment-2309 What a drama! What a drama!

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